Hi Guys! If I close iCUE the CPU idles as expected at 2.2 ghz, 0.8v, etc, but if I enter iCUE then I boost to 4.3 ghz, 1.45v, etc. Now with 3700x with x570 in manual overclock this does not happen. Not using Dragon Center or any other measuring applications in the back ground. Check your voltage if you run high temps on idle!!! I'm using the stock fan from AMD (was doing alright so far). Thanks a lot, I was just wondering because all the reviewers praised it for its low power consumption. 100% load was hitting over 90*C, at 1.25v load temps dropped to mid 70's. I would like someone that has a functional 3900x to pull the cpu and pull the cmos battery. I don't buy it. #3. Ryzen 3900X Temperature and Voltage Problem in ide... Hi,  Good tip on cfosspeed. Okay, but Vcore and stuff is something that might be fixed in future BIOS updates, right? When I turned it back on, CPU was stable, Voltage was stable, and with that the Fans were stable.. Also now as I'm typing this message, the PC is stable again.. Contaminated with lots of sandy stuff. That seems very high to me, I come from an 45W i5, which obviously had a lot less power but IDLE'd at 5-10W. I lowered his to 1.25v as well and idle and load temps dropped significantly with the stock Wraith Prism. something is changing and not being reset correctly. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Cinebench at 80° is not out of ordinary (on my system I reach 78°). Boot to windows and I now idle at 75c. Would Also recomend you uninstall dragon center, have had issues with it in the past that was causing high cpu usage while idle on my 3900x plus it would install something called cFospeed which is part dragon centers network speed management which you dont really need and people have had connectivity issues with in the past, not to mention it would sometimes remain installed in your system even after uninstalling Dragon center (you can usually find it using windows program uninstall but there have been cases of it not beeing listed there but can still be seen as a process/service running in the background). This plan causes the CPU to downclock to 2.2 GHz and 0.95V or even lower (on my system it can sometimes hit a low of 0.2V). I did notice something yesterday that has now stabilized the situation (for now). Discussion. idle 39c max for 3 hours boot to windows and idle at 42 to 45 c @ 1-3 % cpu usage. Honestly I did a per ccx overclock and my idle temps stay way better because my vcore stays at 1.35 The idle on my 3900x stays around 60c on default it's really annoying. I guess from the 14nm chiplet..? I've reinstalled windows 10, latest AMD chipset drivers, latest BIOS update from MSI and I just can't get rid of the problem. And everything is still stable. I read a guide somewhere and set all cores to 4.5ghz and set a static voltage of 1.3v until someone told me I'd possibly degrade my chip by doing that (had it … It's not idle at all, always try to do something. I just want stability and I hope this will get it. Re: Ryzen 3900X Temperature and Voltage Problem in idel Best solution is offset voltage from bios with value of -0.0125V and all heat problems will gone but the speed will stay about 3.799GH Also see your BIOS settings. I set it to be disabled on startup as it is not required (bloatware) and in fact may slow down your internet speed in some cases. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. At IDLE (0-1% CPU) the CPU Package Power is around 40W, is that normal? Log In Sign Up. No apps or games at all. When I got the replacements I did the default install and booted to bios set to auto and XMP to 3200 and set timing and voltages. Hi. If current draw (and by logical extension, power draw) are low during these voltage/temperature spikes during low periods of activity (idle, or close to it), then the spikes are largely irrelevant. tl;dr, the behavior you're describing is normal. Reinstalled stock cooler. Ive got a query with my temps on my Ryzen 9 3900x, I think its high but can i get a few second opinions & maybe some advice from you guys? /r/AMD is community run and does not represent AMD in any capacity unless specified. this went on for two weeks. Ryzen 3xxx CPUs tend to run at veery high voltage even on idle. What I don't understand is why this is happening now after 4-5 months of using it.. Removing services like this will help increase your benchmarking performance - I get 30-50 more in Cinebench R20 when I strip all possible services from my 3900x. max temp recorded is 78.8c and I have done nothing but write this post. In a screenshot shared on Reddit, Hallock showed that when twiddling its thumbs, a Ryzen 9 3900X can drop its voltages well below 0.4 V. Since yesterday I seem to have the same issue, but my PC suddenly shut down and on reboot it said CPU overheated.. this has now happened several times. Tried all auto vs 4.0 g all core. Okay great! Anyway, I installed those as well just to see if it made a difference and after, I wasn't using the PC for a bit and it went into sleep mode (windows balanced energy thing). After changing it to Voltage Offset -0,200 the temperatures are now about 30C in Idle. Bios needed a battery pull to clear microcode. It's a 145W 12c part, in no way at all comparable to a measly i5. I am going to bet every single person reporting these issues has done at least 1 cmos reset. in bios idling I was hitting 115 c and alarms would go off. The RGB options you chose usually are kept even after uninstalling it, atleast thats how it is with my MSI x570 Pro Carbon Wifi and Edge. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Can someone help me? I just got my 3900x today and installed it in an X570 Taichi running the newest stable bios: 1.40. voltage spikes at 1.45 V or higher are absolutely normal with a 3900X. When I got the replacements I did the default install and booted to bios set to auto and XMP to 3200 and set timing and voltages. I don't overclock it and the only program running is Dragon Center from MSI to change the RGB and the user scenario (which I guess is overclocking?). Edit: I know everything is fine if I leave the idle voltage at 1.4-1.5V. I also notice that the fan constantly spins up for a couple of seconds and then spins down again.. this is very very veerrryy annoying! Running an undervolt of 0.0750v-0.1000v only drops my max clockspeed by literally 50MHz but significantly reduces the voltage and heat running through the chip. Image 3 of 10. Then the idle temp is all right. nothing special here. The idle temperature was fine indeed around 40 degrees. Troubleshooting: Hello! The CPU is also doing it outside of the recording there was no difference there. do a cmos reset, then pull battery, then verify cpu temp in bios before and after. currently per HWinfo64 voltage is 1.47 max clocks are 4.45 ghz max. no rocket science here. Just a quick video of some of the issues that I faced when doing this build. Each time I'm rebooting the PC however it seems to forget it's settings and seems to not stick to the same scenario.. Not sure why this is happening, it's very frustrating.. Untitled: Apr 12, 2020 3:44 PM.webm - Google Drive  please see here a video of how the core speed and multiplier change very second (this is idle).. the fan's going nuts which makes me go nuts! My friends TUF X570 3900X setup was the same high temps with high core voltage stock. Is the fan curve set to "silent" or some such? Image 2 of 10. If your CPU pulls 180-200W AVX then you've enabled PBO and are overclocking. Or you can say AMD has a different definition of IDLE than Intel. Works fine functionally, but I noticed that in multiple programs, i.e. I had a problem with a h115i and found rocks in it. Okay good to know! I have c-state enabled. Previously it had a ryzen 2600x with asus b450 and when in manual overclock it lowered the frequency and the voltage in idle. I have just bought the Kraken X72 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07B9HP5H6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 as it was on offer and I've had my eyes on it for a while now. My board Crosshair VII was running the cpu (3900x) with 1,45V. I've decided to publish the Windows power plan I use on my 3900X. Image 5 of 10. I've done a cmos reset and also took out the battery of the motherboard (this didn't make a difference). The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Under heavy load the 3900X can run at 1.1v with vdrop which is a great CPU. For Idle, see #1. Description of Original Problem: CPU idle voltage draw between 1.38v to 1.4v. Thanks. Untitled: Apr 12, 2020 3:44 PM.webm - Google Drive, https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07B9HP5H6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. what about temps and voltage when you run cinebench? The Zen 2 IDLE is broken. Since a ton of people have complained about voltages, heat, etc. But what does this 220W TDP of the noctua cooler mean? https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. My 3900X idles between 38-48C and stays under 55-60C during most workloads. Ryzen 3900X Idle Power Consumption, Voltage, and Clocks. Idle 39c max temps in cinebench r20 85c. Try Windows Balanced power plan, better Voltages and Temps at idle, without compromised benchmarks. Napoleonic S . In R20 it will climb to around 71C with my AIO and all cooling fans at 100% RPM at that temp. Ryzen Master, CPUZ, HWMonitor, the voltages were consistently staying above 1.4 and upto 1.5 while rarely dipping into the 1.3 range. My 3900x was getting fairly low benchmark scores at stock settings, ~6700-6800 in Cinebench R20. Thanks a lot, I'm pretty new to the AMD and high core count CPUs, but I love it - my CFD workstation is rocking! But not THAT better as your old buddy i5. It is directly due to resetting the cmos. User account menu • [HELP] 3900x - Temps/Voltages check + Organizing HWINFO64. But that really brings more power consumption and heat, which also leads to louder fan noise. 40W idle is fine. CPUz told me my voltage was stuck at 1.25 volts... there was no powering down happening when the system was idle. Since I have a vertical mount 1080 TI I have not pulled cpu and cmos battery yet. Please help as this is driving me insane! do you see the voltage and frequency fluctuate? What ever it is. This results in high idle voltages, increased power draw, and increased heat output. Like way too high. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/ and, https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbbfce/3900x_being_overvolted_on_amd_ryzen_power_plans/etefuer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app. Also, don't bother updating chipset drivers using dragon center, its usually out of date and may cause you problems down the line if it starts installing old drivers on top of new ones which I've actually seen happen with an older version of dragon center before. I don't buy it. You'd also thermally lock a 9900K with it, with similar - well, compute-wise, *much* worse - results. Or you are. Thanks for the heads up with the cFosSpeed program that is indeed running.. it seems that it comes with many motherboards, but may not be necessary to have. Unfortunately the fans going up and down all the time seems to be a norm now and affects a number of people depending on what board they use, only solution is to use an AIO which i highly recomend you do anyway cause the stock Prism cooler just isn't very good for the 3900x especially if you dont have or use regular AC in the room. it degraded so bad after 10 or so days it was unusable. ClockTuner for Ryzen (CTR) 1.1 beta 7 ClockTuner for … Never seen this before (it was usually max 85 celcius). CPU usage on core 1 & 2 shouldn't be that high at idle, my 3900x doesn't even go that high at idle even when I've got steam and other background processes running. 7 Posts #2 • 2 mo ago. using hwinfo64, what kind of temps and voltages are you getting while idle? My i5 went with the boxed cooler basically to room temps (25-30°C). I just built and assembled a Ryzen 9 3900X system for myself - the first system I've built for myself from the ground up! windows updates all completed. Switching to Windows Balanced will reduce idle by another 7W, not sure if that's worth it for losing some Zen2 features.2.) Played CoD warzone and the temp went up to 95 degrees! Then they run hot. I got myself a Noctua NH D15s and noticed two things which I hope you can help me out with. Try Windows Balanced power plan, better Voltages and Temps at idle, without compromised benchmarks. The computer was idle and no updates were being installed. And secondly under load (if I apply manual OC) my CPU pulls 180W-200W (AVX) and the Noctua can't keep the temps under 95°C, but I have read that this Noctua has a TDP of 220-250W so it should keep it at 90°C or below right? reboot back to bios. through everything under the sun and the kitchen sink....no effect. This is actually a 3rd party LAN/WAN manager that is installed as part of Dragon Master. I think I now have a clue for you all and why we are all seeing these strange high temps. boot to windows and idle at 42 to 45 c @ 1-3 % cpu usage. Maybe your W10 is stressing it with background updates/tasks. Not a single setting. Might want to check for whatever background activity is causing that and if you can't find any process/service that's causing it then it must be some drivers that are causing it in your system cause I have seen something similar to it happen on another system of mine just this January (high cpu usage at idle but normal cpu usage after waking up from sleep) found out that it was actually caused by a combination of the wireless drivers and the new windows update, uninstalling the wireless drivers solved the problem, and it seems that I'm not the only one that's had that happen to after updating windows, Microsoft seems to be aware of the problem and has since released bug fixes for it but I'm still seeing people reporting about it even now. Set BIOS voltages to their default or Auto values, except those voltage domains that are adjusted by your memory's XMP profile; 4. keep your chipset software, Windows version (1903 recommended), and motherboard BIOS version up to date; and 5. don't worry if you don't see <0.5 V values, <1 V is the desired idle … But not THAT better as your old buddy i5. And technically that is true, the cores when ideling pull like 0.1W so even twelve cores don't suck any power but the resulting package power is so much higher. CPU idle usage is between 1-3 % max. Googling cfosspeed will give you more info if you need it. Or you can say AMD has a different definition of IDLE than Intel. After a few days of over clocking and testing limits I had to do a cmos reset by way of the cmos reset button on the back of the rear io. x570 unify with bios Version 7C35vA3 Release Date 2020-01-16, I had many issues with the original unify and 3900x. So, if i were to just take #s from above, and enter 1.36 or whatever worked for others, i would most likely get a static voltage, and none of the power saves from having the voltage adapt to whats needed when a load is applied. Hi,  Good tip on cfosspeed. I wonder if there's been an update in drivers or anything from windows that's messed it up. with AC on at 68 degrees outside with windows open with good air flow. I would lower your offset a little bit ( maybe at -0.0725 V) because in my opinion you are slightly reducing performance with -0.1 V, but don’t worry about voltage. Image 1 of 10. My AIO runs at 50% RPM normally so it keeps the temps down and my coolant temp around 25-26C with ambient around 21-22C. I had to rma both due to overheating in bios, IF not stable over 1600, random reboots when putting a load on cpu. If you really have to change the RGB settings just install dragon center again, change to your desired RGB settings then uninstall it afterwards. I have a 3900x, 1080 Ti, and MSI B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi, 2x16 GB RAM 3200, Noctua-U14s CPU isn't overclocked manually, just PBO + XLR is on by … Press J to jump to the feed. NEW! Removing services like this will help increase your benchmarking performance - I get 30-50 more in Cinebench R20 when I strip all possible services from my 3900x. every thing is set correctly. By clicking OK, you consent to the use of cookies. 4 all core gave a higher score. This is actually a 3. cfosspeed will give you more info if you need it. Temp/voltage on Matisse (desktop Zen2) needs to be viewed in light of current draw. booted back to bios and my temps started climbing incredibly fast 40 50 60 70 80 90 +. I got my 3900X last week and it is awesome! If removed, it seems to be reinstalled as soon as Dragon Master is opened again. I believe the cmos reset button process is broken. I still don't trust it 100% and have yet to test it with a game to see how it reacts. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Only CPU-Z and Ryzen Master (that's 1 complicated program). If at all  possible, download and install your drivers one at a time while constantly monitoring for any strange system behaviour, makes it easier to notice if a driver you just installed is causing you problems. This website uses cookies. Voltage is like 1.1v. reboot back to bios. Light load will be up to 1.58v depending on power plan and BIOS.I say 1.58v because it is the highest voltage I have seen.This high voltage is to get the high boost on cores.Highest boost I seen was 4750Mhz on 3800X Now as long as temperatures are within AMD limits ,I would say no problems and try not to let it bug … Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Most current benchmark/monitoring apps actually put enough load on the CPU to raise the cores from sleep / idle. For example, my 3900X in "idle mode", shut down 10 cores which means less voltage wich means LESS temperature... 40°c Idle with 28-30°c ambiant (30-35°c Outside here in paris area) The question is : In idle mode, do your cores is really idle or do they still work with medium High load.... What is the peak and average voltage in RM when you in idle mode? If you are looking to drop down your cpu temp; i had same issues while gaming cpu goes upto 95; idle was around 44 - 57; after those setting cpu dont goes above 77 while on load, This did indeed do the exact same for me. So with of these facts in mind, is something wrong with my cooler, should I repaste or is this normal behavior? idle. Image 6 of 10. I myself also own a 3900x and have tested the stock coolers before and they just arent very good for long term use and is why AMD recomends using an AIO instead for the 3900x and 3950x (3950x and above doesn't even come with a cooler cause it requires you to have an AIO for it), I personally use a cheap idCooling 360 AIO i got last year (was just planning to just test it and replace with a Coolermaster AIO but ended keeping it cause i got too lazy and busy with work to change it lol) and it works way better and more quieter (especially while doing prolonged sustained Cycle render in Blener) than the stock prism cooler, and if a 360mm rad doesnt fit your case you could go with a 240mm AIO with a thick radiator or a 280mm AIO which is cheaper though slightly wider than a 360 AIO. your idle temps are actually in line whith what your gonna get when using the stock prism cooler that came with the 3900x, also the clock speeds jumping up and down like that every second in cpuz is normal and if you look at RyzenMaster (which show you the avg clocks) it never really stays at a sustained 4ghz+ clocks for very long. Image 7 of 10. I have combed through the bios and there isnt anything out of order or set incorrectly. Keep in mind that AVX is the worst case possible for any CPU. It's not idle at all, always try to do something. SOP as it should be. (There was a official post on this on this very reddit a few days/weeks back.). Re: Voltage/clocks for idle 3900X 2020/06/21 03:19:13 bob16314 Just off the top of my head I'd say to set the Power Plan in Windows -> Control Panel -> … reinstall it all and test please. This is with my ac running and it's 68 degrees outside. user windows Balanced Power plan. it melted my aio pump and damaged it perm. 1.) Image 4 of 10. Re: Ryzen 3900X Temperature and Voltage Problem in idel. Low 50s on idle. Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Threadripper, EPYC, Navi, the next-gen consoles, news, rumours, show-off your build and more. So 40W with a Noctua that results in 45°C is just the normal behaviour? However sometimes out of nowhere it would go up to 95 degrees and at some point shut the pc down with the message, CPU overheating. After 1st assembly have not taken stock cooler off so thermal paste should also not be the reason. From the video other than the high usage on core 1 and 2 (which im not sure whats up with that, could be because your recording at that time maybe?) Even right after startup temps were 50C in Bios with a Dark Rock 4 Pro. The Temps with my Noctua: At Idle (with the 40W) my temps never go below 45°C (Room Temp 21°C), is that okay? Image 8 of 10. There is currently no cooler, not even ideal watercooling, on the market that would be able to deal with >200W 3900x unless you go exotic (chiller/LN2). I'm not sure if this is due to the windows balance energy cycle, or the AMD chipset drivers via Dragon Center. Almost started taking the cooler off but this may have saved me from the hassle. Hi! In Dragon Center (there's a section for drivers) and it was showing the AMD chipset drivers.. I had updated to the last version so still not sure why it was coming up in Dragon Center. The best CPUs are not supposed to do that. I can work around this by enabling Windows Power Saver Power Plan, but this doesn't really solve the issue and I need to switch power plans when I am gaming, updating, etc. Now I am at 35 deg. Something is causing these cpu's to super heat after a cmos reset. This has basically been my experience w/ a 3900x as well. So depending on your ambient and coolant temps and fan speeds you may be fine idle temp … again nothing special config wise. I'm running all my fans on 60% (140mm 1000rpm) until 60°C after that it goes up to 100% at 80°C.
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